These ran alittle large in our opinion but really hurt my 9yr olds feet. My daughter found these uncomfortable and they seemed to really rub in the back of the heel. I was very suprised since they are Geox and pretty pricey for kids shoes. I wanted something stylish but comfortable and well made for her since 4th gr is a very busy year but these unfortunately were not it for us. We got them Prime very quickly but Returned them.