I ordered a toddler size 4. I ordered 2 other pairs of toddler size 4 in different brand shoes. These are more like a toddler size 6 at least. They run big for sure even though they say size 4. Shoes are good otherwise just sucks bc I needed white slip on shoes now not in a few sizes.I bought these for my 3yr old to design his own shoes with shaving cream and dye. When they arrived they were too large for him by about 2 sizes. He was nearing the end of a size 9, so we purchased a size 10, the shoes wore more like an 11 or 11.5. We did not return the shoes, because - well he is growing and I knew he would eventually be able to wear the project he would create!The shoes quality is great! - he now wears them and runs all over the place as I bet you could imagine for a 3 year old boy ?! And he doesn’t complain about them being uncomfortable - which he completely would, he is not shy in telling you he’s not opinions.I’d suggest buying them! Just maybe a size down.These fit true to size. Ordered a size 3 for my almost 8 year old. He likes them and is usually pretty picky about shoes.Needed a pair of plain white shoes, quickly. These work great and my narrow footed 7 year old loves them. GREAT value for the money.My daughter wears a 4, almost 5 and these are closer to a 6, maybe even a 7 in toddlers.a little big, and get dirty pretty bad for someone who sits in an office all day. these are better for kiddos who want to color/paint on or something.Love it niceMy son had very similar slip on shoes he loved but his feet are getting bigger and those became snug. Those were a size 10, so I ordered these in an 11 and they are gigantic. His toes are almost an inch from the actual toe edge of the shoe. Other than that they seem good enough quality although I’d say they could be a bit cheaper. They’re only $10 cheaper than brand name Vans and they’re not super impressive.